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Rudolf Steiner may have been born a clairvoyant, but he had to train to become an Ethical Individualist. Each step of this self-directed Project Based Study program focuses on one of the abilities discussed in The Philosophy of Freedom needed to turn one's ideals into completed action. The abilities practiced are scientific inquiry, pure reasoning, imagination, technical skills and collaboration. You are also welcome to take a "just do it" approach and forget the program structure. Your finished project will be shared with others by becoming part of the permanent archive. Questions? Post comment or "contact". More to come....
     
         
         
         
         
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Hi Tom. Re Inspiration in PoF

Don't know if you remember expressing curiosity about examples of "Inspiration" in pof. I said that it seemed to have been deliberately screened out. But now I remember... But its in the first appendix, which didn't arrive until 1918 and may not qualify by your reckoning. Its where he adresses the "other minds problem", saying that we are driven to fall asleep to our own thinking in the face of the thinking of the other. As I understand Inspiration from elsewhere Inspiration is the state required for insight into the sense world, a la Goethean science, and Imagination the state required for accsessing the human interior.This prvious sentence is pure theory, as I state it here, because my own experience is not clearly enough formed on the matter to say yet.

These talking heads are fascinating. Its good to here sense coming out of the mouths of such images. Its quite startling.I like it.

all th3e best
Bryn

inspiration

You begin with a whole when you set up a system of concepts, like a pie. Then you slice the pie up into several pieces. Different systems slice the pie up differently, so conceptual systems can't always fit into other systems easily.

I haven't found it helpful to bring other systems into POF, but found it to be unhelpful. The big exception has been Steiner's later 12 world-outlook theory which works well.

What works well for me is explaining POF with other parts of POF.

I don't know what Steiner means by "inspiration" so I don't know about it.

imagination is Western path

Link to lecture: For Western civilization, the path leading into the spiritual worlds is that of Imagination.

This lecture seems to imply in the first paragraph that the Eastern path is through inspiration and the Western scientific path is through imagination.

Yes I've studied that entire course of those lectures.

The overall message is not quite as "either/or" asyou put it. As I understand, more broadly, and prior, RS claims to the effect: The condition of inspiration was arrived at in the eastern way by means of mantras. Inspiration these days is no longer possible to us westerners by that particular means. Inspiration is still part of the western way, just not arrived at by mantras now, but by body free thinking; through absorbing (inspiring) more the meaning content of the word rather than through immersion in the word's sound texture.
Thats my take as I recall the lectures anyway.
How IS ispiration arrived at in the wild west? In my case sitting down and doing exercises. Slowly, then it clicks in when I try sometimes when I'm standing up now and again. Goethean method, Inspiration, is the "picture-mathematical" way of resolving outer mysteries. Imagination the inner imo. As far as I can tell Inspiration is a part of both, but I'm blurred. I just press on, until things clarify themselves-or not.

x
Bryn

It sounds like they all

It sounds like they all come together in pure thinking, an integration or unity occurs.

Just to make sure you know, if you are logged in your comments appear immediately, if not, they first have to be screened so appear later.

imagination, intuition confusion

The below quote is from the Wilson introduction. He points out Steiner's later definitions, in this case imagination and intuition, are not always the same as his POF definitions. To bring his later work into POF can be a barrior to understanding POF. His later work is about his clairvoyant perception that he was born with, POF is about intuitive thinking.

IMAGINATION means the faculty and process of creating mental pictures. The word is the same as the German Imagination, but I have also used it for the German Phantasie, because the word “fantasy” suggests something altogether too far from reality, whereas “imagination” can mean something not only the product of our own consciousness, but also a step towards the realization of something new. Thus the title given to Chapter 12, Moral Imagination (for Moralische Phantasie), seemed to me to be correct, and I have kept it. It describes the process of taking an abstract idea, or concept, and creating a vivid mental picture of how it can be applied in a particular circumstance, so that it may become the motive for a moral deed.
In later writings Steiner describes how this ordinary faculty of imagining, or making mental pictures, can be developed to the point where it becomes the faculty of actually perceiving the creative ideas behind the phenomena of nature. In these later writings “Imagination” becomes a special term to indicate this level of perception, but in this book the meaning remains near to the ordinary usage. However, the gateway to such higher levels of perception is opened through the path of experience here set forth.

INTUITION is again the same as the German word, and means the faculty and process of grasping concepts, in particular the immediate apprehension of a thought without reasoning. This is the normal English usage, though Steiner uses the term in an exact way, as follows (see Chapter 5):
In contrast to the content of the percept which is given to us from without, the content of thinking appears inwardly. The form in which this first makes its appearance we will call intuition. Intuition is for thinking what observation is for the percept.
Later in the book he gives another definition (see Chapter 9):
The following was added in 1918 and confuses POF--
Intuition is the conscious experience — in pure spirit — of a purely spiritual content. Only through an intuition can the essence of thinking be grasped.
From this it is not difficult to see how again, in later writings, Steiner could describe a stage of perception still higher than that called “Imagination”, the stage of “Intuition” in which one immediately apprehends the reality of other spiritual beings. Although this book deals only with the spiritual content of pure thinking, intuition at this level is also a step towards a higher level of perceiving reality.

imagination-visualization anyone can do it

Don't you think imagination defined as faculty and process of creating mental pictures is very similar to visualization? Is it possible that these two words describe the same faculty? If so the world is full of anthroposophy, because the visualization can be found in almost every publication about "how to become successful".

Exactly, that is the good news

The Philosophy of Freedom is fundamentally based on the ability to observe one's own thoughts. Only the extreme materialist refuses to do this. From here is is just a question of deepening well known abilities such as scientific thinking, reason, imagination and ethics. Though it is easy to observe that most people have difficulty or are lazy with one or the other.

What Steiner is good at is putting the many pieces into a whole, explaining how each ability is part of a whole human being. They all need to be used. Most people are one-sided and aren't using all these well known abilities in an integrated way, but some are. They can be identified as empowered "knowing" doers who stand up for their ethical principles. I thought Obama was a good example until it turned out how quickly he drops his principles as though he doesn't really have any.

I am always amazed at my spiritualist friends who are not happy unless they find a spiritual ability they are incapable of doing. I am not aware of anybody having much success "developing" the spiritual abilities Steiner was "born" with. But a lot of progress can be made becoming a POF free human being (ethical individualist) by just becoming more conscious of our inner processes and trying harder in applying the POF basics.

I think so called spiritual people are lost in outdated spirituality and miss the pearls of modern spirituality found in the science path of clear thinking. The young computer geeks get it, Waldorf doesn't seem to get it and is being left behind (all art, no real science or serious math).

These basic abilities are the new scientific path to freedom. I have very carefully examined POF for something else, but it is not there. The anthoposophists (theosophists) desperately keep writing books and articles projecting theosophy into POF only proving they are not capable of unbiased reading. I don't know what a person would be seeking above being an empowered free ethical human being, or what anthroposophy is promising above this? It certainly doesn't offer a better path than POF, unless someone is interested in the renewal of outdated paths. If you notice their proposed paths always are a version of some outdated historical path such as the Rosicrucians, Christians, Buddhists etc.

Me! Me! Tom

"I am not aware of anybody having much success "developing" the spiritual abilities Steiner was "born" with."

I am. Its not a straight path of development,it meanders, but it is real. But I aint gonna spill it all out on-line, at least not unless I decide to which I haven't and don't expect to. But there is stuff there-take my word for it or not.I've been at this for years.

Bryn

meandering path?

Was this the result of a definite path of training exercises or was it the culmination of your journey of life exploring many things, inside anthroposophy and outside?

I dont get your question at all Tom

May I be pedantic here for the sake of clarity.
What does your "this" mean here? I am assuming you mean the fact that the path meanders. (it could refer to the fact that I am having sucess).

Your question presents me with so many assumptions in the options it offers me I don't know how to disentangle it in order to reply..just about every word used is skewed, from my perspective on the situation. What is it exactly you want to know? Is it:-
Why is it a meandering path?

I suppose the answer is to be found in- in the concept of "grace" being the prime active element here, rather than will. That understanding, of grace, can only be established looking back, with hindsight. In the moment, cause and effect are not working concepts in the development of clairvoyance; its no use appealing to them in any way. So in retrospect, meandering seems to be whats happening.

Best to you.

Bryn ps sorry about the quotes around "grace"

development

I was just wondering if you can credit any specific thing, such as a spiritual practice, as being fruitful.

For myself, I have noticed a dramatic improvement in intuition and imagination in my life, which I credit to the study and creative expression of The Philosophy of Freedom.

I get you now.

I certainly can credit all and any forms of meditation and inner reflective "work" as fruitful. Also a self training in listening. I had a guru who demanded to be listened to extensively for years which helped me. Studying PoF is probably the single best training I know but all philosophy work helps. Eurythmy helps. Sit down meditation is essential imo. Also, I have read and studied many many of Steiner's texts-that is fruitful, but it is not a good thing to do without active inner work. I have worked with the Class mantrams- for better or worse. Dunno about that one, but the sense of being part of Rudi's esoteric club helps. It sort of shows willing, a being prepared to work in a way not my own; paradoxically a fruitful thing for me. Yeah in a word-work. I love it. Never really wanted to do anything else really cept praps sex and glory! (-: Old now. Hooray! Oh a final thing. Other people. I can't learn without other people now. The solitary work is no longer possible. I'm working on it.
xx
bryn

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