SteinerBooks Spiritual Research Seminar

Submitted by Society Minder on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 7:46pm.

The theme of this year’s weekend SteinerBooks Spiritual Research Seminar was Esoteric Christianity And The Inner Life Of The Earth: A Path For Earth And Humanity. This is a seminar for the presentation of anthroposophical spiritual research by popular leaders in the field of anthroposophical spiritual science. This research requires deep insight derived from the higher clairvoyant thinking attained through disciplined training exercises given by Rudolf Steiner.

The weekend spiritual research seminar had eight lectures on difficult esoteric topics with five speakers to share the findings of their spiritual research challenging the audience to be at their best to receive this high knowledge. An example was astrologer Robert Powell’s lecture Friday night on challenging esoteric topics such as; The Etheric Christ, The Interior of the Earth, the Awakening of the Divine Feminine, the Significance of the Year 2012, and The Mysterious Realm of Shambhala. He writes, "We cannot answer such questions without first understanding certain supra-sensible events."

After Dr. Powell’s lecture a wine and cheese reception was held. While you might expect wine at a gathering of intellectual academics at a university, is it something to expect among serious spiritual researchers? Rudolf Steiner and most anyone with any experience with clairvoyance knows that wine or any other alcoholic beverage deadens clairvoyant ability, so this question comes to mind:

Is it appropriate to serve alcohol at a spiritual research seminar and still be taken seriously?

 

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Good Question

Bravo, society minder!

I would suggest that the real question is not the appropriateness of serving alcohol at a spiritual research seminar, but, rather, through which "doorway" the luciferic spirits moved who had influenced such a decision to be made. It would be valuable to know which researchers ingested the toxins and which refused. That would be valuable information regarding one's evaluation of his or her research. I'm not saying that it would invalidate it as such, but in following Steiner's guidlines for non-clairvoyants applying reason to the methods and conclusions of clairvoyant research, we would be making a grave error to blithely dismiss or indiscrimantly ignore such information.

On a broader note, however, I personally would not conclude at this point that any of the researchers themselves had anything to do with the decision to allow toxic ingestions at the reception. If it is the case that they had no involvement then a brief application of free insight makes clear that the inclusion of alcohol would in no way work against the free activity of any participant exercising his or her free will at the conference.

Yours,

SS

Went through this one when I was in an eastern cult.

The truth then was that we were all schizoid and couldn't function comfortably within the social protocols on offer. We had to be anaesthetized to stand and chat in the tense conventional postures on offer.

I loath alcohol for "oiling the wheels", and have very little sympathy for so called spiritual people who feel they can't reveal themselves in conversation to their fellow humans without it. Blimey, whats spirituality supposed to be about, if you have to be pissed to talk to your friends?
Homnunc

serving the wine

To serve the wine at this function and to call Biodynamic is such a cop out excuse to say it was ok. It is still wine. Fermented fruit that has turned into alcohol. Yes, wine has some antioxidants because it was made with grapes. Limiting your consumption may make it beneficial or at least counteract the health hazards that the alcohol gives. But to actually pack crap into a bull horn for a while and bury it then take that out to later fertilize the grapes that are being grown organic, to call them biodynamic is one step from the old days. Why not say some words over the bull horn full of crap to induce a magic spell and call it 'Biodynamically fortified'? Sounds good to me! Besides, it would give it a marketing flare and you could legitimately say something else was done..

The question of Alcohol and

The question of Alcohol and Anthroposophy is controversial. Obviously getting drunk is not a way to reach clear thinking. On the other hand many people can and do use wine responsibly and enjoy the effects of mild disinhibition. Some spiritual scientists claim that wine is a legitimate and enjoyable enhancement of life. Other 'Pops' consider that one glass wipes out all spiritual development. The devil is in extremism. The pro and anti arguments about alcohol are not confined to Anthroposophy students. 

Personally I go back to the Bible and the words of Christ Jesus. "Judge not that ye be not judged."

Also Jesus was absolutely clear that when he spoke of wine he meant fermented grape juice otherwise the parable of the new wine in old wineskins makes no sense.

Intuitive thinking is a path.

Welcome to the site ilphilo. Your profile sounds very interesting.

A new science report released in the past few days say this"

"It's not just champagne that goes straight to your head - all alcohol does, a study has shown. It takes only six minutes for the effects to hit the brain and begin to cause damage."

I would love to enjoy some wine on occasion but consider life too hazardous to disable intuitive thinking even for a short time. I also have felt a lingering dullness even with one glass. I am more aware of effects because I employ intuitive thinking everyday so clearly notice when it isn't working well. Over eating and food quality also affects intuition. Its important to identify thinking and then see what helps and what doesn't. Intuitive thinking is a path.

Some spiritual scientists

Some spiritual scientists claim that wine is a legitimate and enjoyable enhancement of life.

Which spiritual scientists are these?

Alcohol and Spiritual work

Without naming names: I asked a leading worker in the field of 'Adult Education' and 'Schooling' about an article which totally condemned alcohol in connection with spiritual developement. The 'wise man' took a "less extreme" view.

The misuse of alcohol is a major cotributor to social problems, particularly of violence. However, alcohol use is not the CAUSE of violence. Mohammed forbade alcohol use to Muslims not without cause but abstinence has not prevented some Muslims behaving violently.

In the context of spiritual striving the FREE choice to abstain is no doubt a help on the way. So is abstinence from meat eating, though I recall reading somewhere that Steiner once suggested that vegetarianism was 'cheating'in so far as it gives an unfair advantage in the spiritual stakes over carnivores. Once again it comes down to a question of FREEDOM.

Alcohol and Spiritual work

Despite my previous comments my answer to the intial question is no. In fact I would find it rather embarassing to see alcohol served at a Spiritual Research Seminar. What I or anyone else might enjoy in private is another matter.

alcohol and freedom

Dear Friends,

Steiner makes an interesting remark (perhaps in PoF), suggesting that we distinguish freedom from license.  We can do anything we choose of course, but in fulfilling an appetite are we actdually free?   That is, in point of fact, the first question in PoF: can we want what we want?

In another instance Steiner remarks that the effect of alcohol on the human organism is to drive the ego from the blood.  As someone with 18 years in mental health, and being an addict in recovery, I am well aware of various stages and kinds of inebriation.  A small amount of alcohol relaxes us, or so we assume.   The fact is that alcohol has two clear effects:

1) It disinhibits so that we begin to disconnect from the influence of the ego on the astral body, because the alcohol drives the warmth body from the blood.  We like the disinhibition result, because we tend to wear masks in many social situations, and seek an outside chemical "helper" to become more spontaneous (leave aside the social mask).

2) It is a depressant - that is it is really a downer (although we first feel it as if it was an upper because of effect #1 above).  This is why people get sorrowful as the alcohol begins to be metabolized.  Of course if one is binge drinking (that is keeping the alcohol coming in), the upper-like effect continues until we pass out, puke or kill ourselves or someone else trying to drive a car (that is totally loose the ability to make sound, ego based, judgments - having opened the door to greater influence by the three-fold double through the ingestion of the alcohol and its driving out of the ego).

There is a wonderful definition of "addiction" that comes from an anthroposophical nurse in Holland: We become open to addiction when we use an outside influence to bring about the resolution of an inner conflict, instead of bringing to bear our own will - our own ego forces inwardly.  This need to use this outside influence (frequently a substance, but it can include sex, power, shopping etc.) - this need becomes a habit when the ego remains too weak before the temptation to resolve the inner conflict through the outside influence.  In the above social situations, the inner conflict arises because we wear social masks, yet want to be intimately known in social situations.  We use the outside substance instead of bringing the ego forces to bear on the inner conflict between inhibition and spontaneousness.

This would be a sign of the absence of inner spiritual freedom - that is the inability to resolve an inner conflict (or even be awake to it) via the own ego forces.

When the use of an outside influence to resolve an inner conflict in the astral body (overcome a desire we would rather not have) becomes habitual, this results in the creation of a psychic parasite in the soul, which an older spiritual science called "egregores", and which Steiner called "tumors" of the soul in the last lecture of Man as a Symphony of the Creative Word.  I prefer the term "self-created wounds of soul", rather than egregores or tumors.  The rite-like repetition of the use of the outside influence frees this area of the wound from any ego-based self regulation, thus creating the parasitic relationship of the wound to the rest of the astral body (as the heroin addict says: the monkey on my back).

The reason, this use of alcohol (or any other "addictive" substance or process) is a problem for spiritual development, is because of the need for purification of the astral body (three steps in moral development for each one step in spiritual development).  In lecture Twelve of the Gospel of John cycle, Steiner describes success on the path of PoF as actually fulfilling the need for purification (there called Katharsis) of the astral body.  The reason the astral body needs to be purified is that its excessive density and weight, due to too much earthiness, makes it unsuitable for regular contact with higher Beings.  They can overcome this darkness in the unpurified astral body through acts of Grace, but we cannot freely rise toward them out of our own will without achieving significant purification of the astral body on our own.

A little known fact of Steiner's biography is that he overcame his own atavistic clairvoyance (from age 8 onward) in his late adolesence through the daily use of alcohol for over a year.  Subsequently he then achieved the new thinking initiation described in its preliminary and preparatory phases in PoF.  That is he faced the elements in the desire or astral body (exactly as described years later in the beginning of PoF) and then went on to full purification via his work described as "some results of introspection following the methods of natural science".  Natural Science includes experimentation, that is in terms of PoF it includes acts of will in the inner life done without knowing in advance what will be the results.  Without real inner risk (and risks in outer circumstances like seeking to be spontaneous in social settings without using alcohol), we make no real development (lest ye become again as little children, ye cannot enter the kingdom of heaven).

The existence of the serving of alcohol in social settings at anthroposophical conferences seems to me to be entirely useful for it actually offers people the opportunity to work through these problems, even if they don't yet fully understand them.  Our meetings are frequently ensouled with an excess of gravitas (to much ahrimanic seriousness), for whiich the luciferic temptation of alcohol might be quite significant - even curative.  Steiner said on more that one occasion that we can overcome the ahrimanic with the luciferic and vice versa.  Since first encountering the Society and Movement I often wondered why the social traditions of Americans (the cocktail party and the afternoon barbecue) were never offered or supported by the Study Goups and the Branches.  So much seriousness, and so little joy.  That alcohol was served at this conference mentioned above seems to me to be entirely appropriate.  The only thing missing is a general knowledge of the facts descrbed in this little note, which would then help people face these questions in a more awake and individual fashion.

hopefully this will be useful to some readers,

love,

joel

 

Alcohol and Freedom

Thank you Joel for your thoughtful and balanced comment.
You know your stuff and it is well worth sharing.
I am lucky to have steered clear of alcohol dependency- though when it threatened my Dr. put me on Valium- which has enslaved many but I managed to give up the tablets without needing some other chemical crutch. I do occasionally enjoy a glass of wine or beer but I quickly find that enough is enough.
The use of alcohol to liven up the over serious/earnest mood at anthro meetings and conferences - the "I'm more earnest and spiritual than your are" mask- has its merits. However, there are other, non chemical stimulants to good humour and openess. Such as singing- but not the dirgy 'proper music' and dancing to 'depraved pop music' or playing silly games. These can all lighten the mood without 'driving out the ego'. It is the sense of fun and 'naughtiness' that livens things up. Those who are unable to join in would probably be those who would avoid alcohol anyway so no one misses out.
I repeat that I would find the serving of alcohol innapropriate at anthro gatherings- I would feel inhibited to imbibe and uncomfortable with those who did. On the other hand I might not be averse to going to the pub afterwards. This may seem hypocritical but for me it is more a case of appropriateness. A time and a place for everything.
Ilphilo

thanks anonymous

excellent contribution - sillyness is a prime antidote to the influence of the double, and is certainly capable of generating the levity forces able to counter an excess of gravitas.  I once proposed that a weekend conference do a "sock-hop" on Saturday evening, instead of the intended "serious dramatic presentation".  That proposal didn't fly, of course.

j.

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