The Problem of the Parabola

Submitted by Tim Bourke on Wed, 08/22/2007 - 6:54am.

Lori has posted an interesting question about Chapter 5 Sections 5 and 6 of PoF:

I was thinking that, if the stone had a little light on it, and was thrown in the dark, and someone filmed it, then the line would be a percept. Would it still be a concept too? Isn't a concept a relationship between things? The line is the changing relationship of the stone to its surroundings, and to the earth.

This is in reference to Steiner's comments:

...It might be quite possible for a spirit to receive the concept at the same time as, and united with, the percept. It would never occur to such a spirit that the concept did not belong to the thing. It would have to ascribe to the concept an existence indivisibly bound up with the thing.

[14] I will make myself clearer by an example. If I throw a stone horizontally through the air, I perceive it in different places one after the other. I connect these places so as to form a line. Mathematics teaches me to know various kinds of lines, one of which is the parabola. I know the parabola to be a line which is produced when a point moves according to a particular law. If I examine the conditions under which the stone thrown by me moves, I find the path traversed is identical with the line I know as a parabola. That the stone moves just in a parabola is a result of the given conditions and follows necessarily from them. The form of the parabola belongs to the whole phenomenon as much as any other feature of it does.

For me, the key part of the passage about the parabola is where Steiner then goes on to say:

The spirit described above who has no need of the detour of thinking would find itself presented not only a sequence of visual percepts at different points but, as part and parcel of these phenomena, also with the parabolic form of the path which we add to the phenomenon only by thinking.

Steiner is reminding me of the inner work I have to do to really call up the concept of a parabolic path - for it is not only a perception, it is also the thinking implied in the mathematical statement that every point on the parabola obeys the formula y=x2 (anyway that's one way of expressing it).

So I think back to my halcyon days in high school... plotting out parabolas point by point until I had enough points to sketch in a reasonable attempt at the whole of the curve.  One thing that is missing in a "mere" perception is that work of inwardly connecting one thing to another (x=1, y=1 for example), then manifesting it outwardly (draw a dot on the grid paper), then inwardly connecting again (x=2, y=4), then manifesting that (another dot) and so on.  I don't think Steiner means the spirit would perceive passively in the way we are able to (as in just staring for example) but that it would have to also inwardly participate in the actual realisation of the concept parabola in a particular case

I connect this with the later part of this passage where Steiner says:

If our existence were so linked up with the things that every occurrence in the world were at the same time also an occurrence in us, the distinction between ourselves and the things would not exist. But then there would be no separate things at all for us. All occurrences would pass continuously one into the other. The cosmos would be a unity and a whole, complete in itself. The stream of events would nowhere be interrupted.

This sounds very much like Steiner's much later descriptions of how elemental beings, members of the spiritual hierarchies and so on participate in the being of the cosmos...  not incarnated physically in the same sense that human beings are, but nevertheless participating in the essence of things as they actually are.  And also his description of how our own experience of the cosmos and of the beings around us is completely changed between death and a new birth, and during sleep every night.

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Parabola

Thanks, Tim, for taking up this question. I've been thinking about what it might be like for a being or person who could see the line as it was made, and then tried to explain it to someone else who couldn't see it. It would be like a sighted person explaining something to a blind person, such as the color red. In the movie "Mask," the main character told his blind friend that red was like standing in front of a hot stove. So what he could see as a percept, she learned about first as a concept.

If I could see the line, and was trying to help someone else understand it, I might give him the equation so that he could plot the line out on a graph and see it there. He could only see it in an abstract form, but could still understand it. Similarly, if an Initiate like Steiner could see people's past lives, he could communicate to us in language that evoked mental pictures to help us understand what he could see, even though we couldn't experience it for ourselves. Other percepts have to evoked, since we don't get the original percept that the person or being with extraordinary perception does.

So I was getting the idea that the hypothetical being who has no need for the detour of thinking might be a different order of being as you mention, an initiate, or even any one of us who just perceives something that someone else can't perceive. Because we first perceive whatever it is, we don't have to generate the experience for ourselves by taking the roundabout way through thinking first. Not that we don't have to think about the event and connect its parts through concepts, but that we divide reality in a different way and put it back together as the same reality. Since the event of the thrown stone really does contain the line as part of it.

This may not be what Steiner's trying to get at here, but it's what I got at by trying to see if I could think the text out of myself. Needless to say, if I think too much about what is percept and what is concept I get tangled up in my shoelaces and fall over!

Centipede Thinking

I agree Lori, thinking too much about what percept and concept are in abstract terms has a similar effect on me - a bit like the old story of the centipede who was asked how he managed to coordinate all those legs - the centipede stopped, thought about it for a moment and then promptly fell over!